#93 tesoro en durango-mazatlan
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#93 tesoro en durango-mazatlan
Jue 10 Sep 2009, 1:31 pm
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A major portion of Pancho Villa treasure is aid to lie near his retreat west of Durango and north of Mazatlan near the village of Tepuxtla, a few miles from the Gulf of California.
The suspected site is at cavern at the headwater of the Rio Presidio River-a stream that meanders out of Sierra Madre Mountains.
amigos lo pongo como esta en ingles, para no cambiar detalles de como viene en el derrotero, al compañero que le interese podra hacer la traduccion mas facilmente.
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A major portion of Pancho Villa treasure is aid to lie near his retreat west of Durango and north of Mazatlan near the village of Tepuxtla, a few miles from the Gulf of California.
The suspected site is at cavern at the headwater of the Rio Presidio River-a stream that meanders out of Sierra Madre Mountains.
amigos lo pongo como esta en ingles, para no cambiar detalles de como viene en el derrotero, al compañero que le interese podra hacer la traduccion mas facilmente.
su amigo y servidor Jaime Acosta Ochoa (batopilas1)
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Re: #93 tesoro en durango-mazatlan
Jue 10 Sep 2009, 2:27 pm
cuentan que doroteo arango mando acuñar monedas de plata con su rostro, alguno de ustedes tiene una de ellas, ya que me gustaria conocerlas, aca en territorio yaqui (bataconsica para ser exacto) cuentan que esta un cargamento de esas monedas, cuando fuimos a detectar no pudimos entrar ya que los yaquis andaban alborotadisimos y era peligroso algun dia pensamos volver para ver si podemos darle matarile.
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Re: #93 tesoro en durango-mazatlan
Mar 31 Ago 2010, 10:05 pm
HASTA DONDE SE
JAMAS SE EMITIO UNA MONEDA O BILLETE CON LA IMAGEN DE VILLA
MEDALLAS HAY MUCHAS...
PERO DE MONEDAS EN SU EPOCA NO TENGO CONOCIMIENTO
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Re: #93 tesoro en durango-mazatlan
Miér 01 Sep 2010, 1:54 am
Sepa la bola Sir... el yaqui que nos contacto ya era mayor, el dijo ver las monedas de Villa, hasta nos conto la historia de como llegaron esas monedas alli, el supuesto tesoro quedo dentro de una casa, que para que no se les perdiera el lugar le empezaron a hechar basura encima de la tierra, cuando fuimos ya habia un cerrito de basura, haber que dia nos toca volver.
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Re: #93 tesoro en durango-mazatlan
Sáb 25 Ago 2012, 9:04 pm
me gustaria saber mas de esta historia, algun link sobre esto?
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Re: #93 tesoro en durango-mazatlan
Sáb 25 Ago 2012, 9:18 pm
a mi me han dicho que pancho villa dejaba a sus trabajadores hacer el agujero que albergaria a sus cargas de dindero y que despues de la cansada los mataba para que no se lo llevaran esto da a entender que sus cargas siguen intactas pues solo el podria dar mas facilmente con ellas.
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Re: #93 tesoro en durango-mazatlan
Sáb 25 Ago 2012, 11:02 pm
ese fragmento pertenece al libro Unfound treasures of Mexico...yo tengo este libro y esta pobremente traducido al español...no se si las historias sean veridicas y no se de donde la sacaron...pero pues todo pude suceder..aqui esta la portada por si lo quieren.... saludos!
aqui mas relatos....los encontre solo en ingles...
To the north of Guadalajara is a blown shut cave containing a hoard of
silver bars and a mine nearby. Two of the bars were removed from the
tunnel in 1934 before a treasure hunter blew it shut. It's still there
in a canyon north of the city. The Golden Gate, laden with $1,500,000
in gold coins and bullion on board, caught fire and sank three miles
offshore and 19 miles north of Manzanillo on July 27, 1862. Salvagers
over the years have recovered about $1,000,000 in gold coins and bars,
leaving at least $500,000 (at 1862 values) for today's treasure hunter.
[i]
Caltzontzin was the king of the Tarascans in the state of Michoacan
in 1500 where it was said that much gold was in the hills. It is
believed by some that his cache of gold treasure, valued at $30,000,000
and secreted during the time of the Spanish conquest, lies buried in a
subterranean passage on the mountain of La Bates de Oro
[i]
122 bars of silver were taken by Pancho Villa and his gang
in an ambush of a train near Chavarria. While traveling back toward the
border in the captured train, he himself was attacked by a band of
government troops at San Andres. Escaping under the cover of darkness,
Villa and his men made their way toward Bachiniva. One of his wounded
soldiers died, and was buried along with the bars of silver, "...on the
road to Bachiniva." Somewhere in or near Bachiniva lies a grave of an
unknown bandit and, nearby, 122 bars of silver.
[/i]
[i][i]
In 1897, within the walls of the old ruined Jesuit mission
of Santa Maria in Lower California (founded in 1707), a jar of treasure
was found buried. The Order was expelled in the winter of 1767-68 and
this was the mission they established there. More may be cached in this
area.
[/i][/i]
[i][i]
On September 13, 1931, the American steamer Columbia was wrecked
off Point Tasco, Santa Margarita Island carrying $320,000 in gold and
silver.
[/i][/i]
[i][i]The
Lost El Naranjal, a mine with a gigantic pile of rich gold ore dug from
it and stockpiled inside is located in the area of El Naranjo, east of
Los Mochis and about 100 miles southwest of the Seven Cities ruins site
in the vicinity of the small stream named Evera Mocorito. The ancient
diggings are on a high mesa in the shadow of a towering mountain.
[/i][/i]
[i][i]The
Jesuits are said to have buried vast riches in a fabulously rich gold
mine, then sealed it up and destroyed all traces of the workings when
they were about to be driven from their settlement in the southwestern
part of Chihuahua. The site is in the area where a great gorge is cut by
the Rio Verde. The larger portion of Pancho Villa's treasures of the
revolution in the 1920s, worth an estimated $24,000,000, is believed
cached in the Sierra Madre Occidental, perhaps in a cave in an area
either 50 miles northwest or 50 miles southwest of Parral where he was
assassinated on July 20, 1923.
[/i][/i]
[i][i]The
treasure cave of the Lauriana outlaw brothers who operated around 1850
is located on the east side of and near the top of Brazil Mountain,
about 8 or 10 miles southeast of Limon in the state of Sinaloa. The
sealed tunnel or cavern contains an estimated 55,000,000 pesos in gold
bars, gold and silver coins and mission treasure.
The entire payroll of gold coins, intended for the 7,000 man Federal
division that followed Pancho Villa when he headed southward in 1914 was
hidden in or near the city of Torreon by a young deserter named Abdon
Perez who wanted to turn it over to Villa. Perez was killed in the first
exchange of shots during the attack on Gomez Palacio - adjoining
Torreon - and the treasure was never found
[/i][/i]
[i][i]A
major portion of Pancho Villa's treasure is said to lie near his
retreat west of Durango and north of Mazatlan near the village of
Tepuxtla, a few miles from the Gulf of California. The suspected site is
at a cavern at the headwaters of the Rio Presidio River - a stream that
meanders out of the Sierra Madre Mountains.
[/i][/i]
[i][i]After
they had wounded the Aztec emperor, Montezuma, whom they had taken
prisoner, Cortez and his Spanish soldiers were besieged in Tenochtitlan
(Mexico City) by the enraged Aztec soldiers led by the Priest of Votan.
After days of savage fighting, the Spaniards attempted to retreat from
the city during the night laden with the vast treasure of Montezuma.
When day dawned after that fatal "Noche Triste" (sad night), Cortez and
only a small remnant of his soldiers had been able to escape with their
lives.Lake Tezcuco, surrounding Tenochtitlan, which they had crossed by
causeway during their bloody flight, was filled with the bodies of the
slain, and on its bottom rested the great treasure of Montezuma,
[/i][/i]
[i][i]Thrown
into the lake by the fleeing Spaniards. This huge hoard had originally
consisted of golden and silver ornaments, and an immense quantity of
jewels. The ornaments had been reduced to wedge-shaped bullion by the
Spaniards, and in this form were cast into the lake. Generations of
treasure seekers have raked the old lakebed and even the title-deeds of
an estate bordering the lake mention the treasure; one President of
Mexico dragged its lava bed for the lost hoard without success.
[/i][/i]
[i][i]There
are centuries of accumulated mud on top of the treasure which still
lies buried under present-day Mexico City and which has defied all
efforts of recovery.. According to legends, when Cortez took siege of
Mexico City in 1521, the Aztec Indians secreted their treasure hoards in
and around the Lake of the city and, in particular, in a cave in the
nearby hillsides surrounding the city. A rich treasure is said to be
hidden in the vaults under the church of San Geronimo por la Santissima
Virgen in Mexico City .
[/i][/i][/i]
aqui mas relatos....los encontre solo en ingles...
To the north of Guadalajara is a blown shut cave containing a hoard of
silver bars and a mine nearby. Two of the bars were removed from the
tunnel in 1934 before a treasure hunter blew it shut. It's still there
in a canyon north of the city. The Golden Gate, laden with $1,500,000
in gold coins and bullion on board, caught fire and sank three miles
offshore and 19 miles north of Manzanillo on July 27, 1862. Salvagers
over the years have recovered about $1,000,000 in gold coins and bars,
leaving at least $500,000 (at 1862 values) for today's treasure hunter.
[i]
Caltzontzin was the king of the Tarascans in the state of Michoacan
in 1500 where it was said that much gold was in the hills. It is
believed by some that his cache of gold treasure, valued at $30,000,000
and secreted during the time of the Spanish conquest, lies buried in a
subterranean passage on the mountain of La Bates de Oro
[i]
122 bars of silver were taken by Pancho Villa and his gang
in an ambush of a train near Chavarria. While traveling back toward the
border in the captured train, he himself was attacked by a band of
government troops at San Andres. Escaping under the cover of darkness,
Villa and his men made their way toward Bachiniva. One of his wounded
soldiers died, and was buried along with the bars of silver, "...on the
road to Bachiniva." Somewhere in or near Bachiniva lies a grave of an
unknown bandit and, nearby, 122 bars of silver.
[/i]
[i][i]
In 1897, within the walls of the old ruined Jesuit mission
of Santa Maria in Lower California (founded in 1707), a jar of treasure
was found buried. The Order was expelled in the winter of 1767-68 and
this was the mission they established there. More may be cached in this
area.
[/i][/i]
[i][i]
On September 13, 1931, the American steamer Columbia was wrecked
off Point Tasco, Santa Margarita Island carrying $320,000 in gold and
silver.
[/i][/i]
[i][i]The
Lost El Naranjal, a mine with a gigantic pile of rich gold ore dug from
it and stockpiled inside is located in the area of El Naranjo, east of
Los Mochis and about 100 miles southwest of the Seven Cities ruins site
in the vicinity of the small stream named Evera Mocorito. The ancient
diggings are on a high mesa in the shadow of a towering mountain.
[/i][/i]
[i][i]The
Jesuits are said to have buried vast riches in a fabulously rich gold
mine, then sealed it up and destroyed all traces of the workings when
they were about to be driven from their settlement in the southwestern
part of Chihuahua. The site is in the area where a great gorge is cut by
the Rio Verde. The larger portion of Pancho Villa's treasures of the
revolution in the 1920s, worth an estimated $24,000,000, is believed
cached in the Sierra Madre Occidental, perhaps in a cave in an area
either 50 miles northwest or 50 miles southwest of Parral where he was
assassinated on July 20, 1923.
[/i][/i]
[i][i]The
treasure cave of the Lauriana outlaw brothers who operated around 1850
is located on the east side of and near the top of Brazil Mountain,
about 8 or 10 miles southeast of Limon in the state of Sinaloa. The
sealed tunnel or cavern contains an estimated 55,000,000 pesos in gold
bars, gold and silver coins and mission treasure.
The entire payroll of gold coins, intended for the 7,000 man Federal
division that followed Pancho Villa when he headed southward in 1914 was
hidden in or near the city of Torreon by a young deserter named Abdon
Perez who wanted to turn it over to Villa. Perez was killed in the first
exchange of shots during the attack on Gomez Palacio - adjoining
Torreon - and the treasure was never found
[/i][/i]
[i][i]A
major portion of Pancho Villa's treasure is said to lie near his
retreat west of Durango and north of Mazatlan near the village of
Tepuxtla, a few miles from the Gulf of California. The suspected site is
at a cavern at the headwaters of the Rio Presidio River - a stream that
meanders out of the Sierra Madre Mountains.
[/i][/i]
[i][i]After
they had wounded the Aztec emperor, Montezuma, whom they had taken
prisoner, Cortez and his Spanish soldiers were besieged in Tenochtitlan
(Mexico City) by the enraged Aztec soldiers led by the Priest of Votan.
After days of savage fighting, the Spaniards attempted to retreat from
the city during the night laden with the vast treasure of Montezuma.
When day dawned after that fatal "Noche Triste" (sad night), Cortez and
only a small remnant of his soldiers had been able to escape with their
lives.Lake Tezcuco, surrounding Tenochtitlan, which they had crossed by
causeway during their bloody flight, was filled with the bodies of the
slain, and on its bottom rested the great treasure of Montezuma,
[/i][/i]
[i][i]Thrown
into the lake by the fleeing Spaniards. This huge hoard had originally
consisted of golden and silver ornaments, and an immense quantity of
jewels. The ornaments had been reduced to wedge-shaped bullion by the
Spaniards, and in this form were cast into the lake. Generations of
treasure seekers have raked the old lakebed and even the title-deeds of
an estate bordering the lake mention the treasure; one President of
Mexico dragged its lava bed for the lost hoard without success.
[/i][/i]
[i][i]There
are centuries of accumulated mud on top of the treasure which still
lies buried under present-day Mexico City and which has defied all
efforts of recovery.. According to legends, when Cortez took siege of
Mexico City in 1521, the Aztec Indians secreted their treasure hoards in
and around the Lake of the city and, in particular, in a cave in the
nearby hillsides surrounding the city. A rich treasure is said to be
hidden in the vaults under the church of San Geronimo por la Santissima
Virgen in Mexico City .
[/i][/i]
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Re: #93 tesoro en durango-mazatlan
Dom 26 Ago 2012, 12:41 am
alan benjamin garcia nava escribió:a mi me han dicho que pancho villa dejaba a sus trabajadores hacer el agujero que albergaria a sus cargas de dindero y que despues de la cansada los mataba para que no se lo llevaran esto da a entender que sus cargas siguen intactas pues solo el podria dar mas facilmente con ellas.
saludos cordiales.
Pues si pero tambien el hacia un mapa de donde dejaba sus entierros para que no se le fuera a olvidar, y que solo el sabia donde los guardaba (los mapas) y luego que lo mataron, sabra dios quien se quedo con esos mapas.
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Re: #93 tesoro en durango-mazatlan
Dom 26 Ago 2012, 3:03 pm
Amigo chat77 ese libro esta re pirata tengo unas copias de el esa carátula no es la original es como oyera edición de unos cuadernillos gringos dicen que de mazatlan al sur hay una isla a 30 millas y que ahí hay un tesoro pero de mazatlan al sur solo esta la isla de los cardones y esta a 2 km cuando mucho de mazatlan , entonces hay muchos datos falsos como que me cuentan historias y las pongo en un libro y lo vendo .... no tiene seriedad
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Re: #93 tesoro en durango-mazatlan
Dom 26 Ago 2012, 6:41 pm
Pues yo tengo los libros de Cahrles Kenworthy, son sencillos, parecen cuadernos, asi como el que comparte Chat77. Tienes otro tipo de libros de C. K. compañero robalocarapanda? Me gustaria tenerlo tambien.
Lo que Charles K. publico en su libro de "Unfound Treasures of Mexico" es simplemente lo que no tenia mucho fundamento, historias muy dificiles de comprobar o encontrar por falta de datos o fuentes fidedignas, estoy seguro que muchos de los derroteros reales o bien detallados que cayeron en sus manos los encontro.
Estaba fuertemente documentado sobre los simbolos españoles, de los mas documentados diria yo.
Lo que Charles K. publico en su libro de "Unfound Treasures of Mexico" es simplemente lo que no tenia mucho fundamento, historias muy dificiles de comprobar o encontrar por falta de datos o fuentes fidedignas, estoy seguro que muchos de los derroteros reales o bien detallados que cayeron en sus manos los encontro.
Estaba fuertemente documentado sobre los simbolos españoles, de los mas documentados diria yo.
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